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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 13:28:18 GMT -6
I was looking for info on Strike indicators, specifically Air-Locks and Thingamabobbers. Is one better than the other? What size works best for Nymphing on the LMF?
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Post by turfdawg on Mar 23, 2018 14:42:09 GMT -6
My opinion smaller the better [or without] and I prefer the air-locks then corqs then thingamabobbers. I also mainly use white
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Post by dainw on Mar 23, 2018 17:07:09 GMT -6
Pretty much one in the same. Thingamabobbers tend to kink your leader bc of the way they go on. Air locks not so much but to me are harder to mess with to me. Both come in different sizes, Depends on how much weight is on your leader. If you’re fishing smaller flies with no split shot, you’ll want to use the small ones not sure what the diameter is...larger nymphs, split shot used the medium ones. Can pretty much hang anything from those. The small ones have limits to how much weight you can hang from then.
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Post by kovaku on Mar 23, 2018 18:17:13 GMT -6
Air locks all the way. Easy to remove from the leader and easy to put on.
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Post by darrelln09 on Mar 23, 2018 19:09:18 GMT -6
I’m going to try some 1/2-inch Air Locks this weekend. That’s the size I usually use for Corqs and the round plastic balls w/ toothpicks. The only exception to that is I use Palsa indicators for midges. Those are the stick-on foam pads. One will hold up two midges and a half of one will hold up one midge. They are super light and don’t affect your cast at all. Thanks goes out to “danimal” for that tip!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 20:54:23 GMT -6
Great info. I now have a place to start. Will have to get some Palsa indicators as well.
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Post by dainw on Mar 23, 2018 21:44:47 GMT -6
Some people love the palsa indicators. I’ve never really been a fan of them myself. To me they don’t float as high and if there’s current they are hard track. In a situation where you would use a palsa, I just prefer to use a big dry fly as my indicator.
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Post by turfdawg on Mar 23, 2018 22:00:08 GMT -6
Some people love the palsa indicators. I’ve never really been a fan of them myself. To me they don’t float as high and if there’s current they are hard track. In a situation where you would use a palsa, I just prefer to use a big dry fly as my indicator. This might sound crazy but I like to use them with small dries so I can see where I’m at |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 9:40:14 GMT -6
Some people love the palsa indicators. I’ve never really been a fan of them myself. To me they don’t float as high and if there’s current they are hard track. In a situation where you would use a palsa, I just prefer to use a big dry fly as my indicator. This might sound crazy but I like to use them with small dries so I can see where I’m at From what I've learned on this message board, you're crazy if you don't try different ideas. My wife and I fished LMF last year for the first time. It had been 25 years since I last fly fished. Back then, we lived in Flagstaff and would fish Oak Creek Canyon. We are planning a return trip to Beaver's Bend this fall. |
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Post by golferjeff on Mar 24, 2018 10:11:01 GMT -6
Some people love the palsa indicators. I’ve never really been a fan of them myself. To me they don’t float as high and if there’s current they are hard track. In a situation where you would use a palsa, I just prefer to use a big dry fly as my indicator. I like palsas in slow flat water. But if you are in a stream with any riffle or wave, tie on a big dry just in case. Chernobyl's, big stone, big stimmy's...anything. especially in tailwaters. |
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Post by FlyAndStream on Mar 24, 2018 22:20:37 GMT -6
Regarding the Palsas, the one thing I don't like about them is that they aren't adjustable. I may fish a spot for 10 minutes where the water is 2 ft deep, then walk down to the next spot where the water is a different depth. You can't slide them up or down to adjust for the change. Then if you remove one and add on a new it often leaves white foamish sticky residue on your tippet, which confidence wise, I don't like. Also, I can't tell you how many times in and around Summer a fish will strike at the Palsa indicator thinking it's floating food. In that case I'll echo what golferjeff and dainw said: In a situation where you would use a palsa, I just prefer to use a big dry fly as my indicator. The airlocks seem better in this regard but make a bit more splash, again not helping confidence when casting to spooky fish. Anymore, I'd rather tight-line it euro-style, or swing a fly to them, and only in rare instances when required use an indicator at all. |
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Post by golferjeff on Mar 25, 2018 14:46:44 GMT -6
For Palsas, try this trick..... if you need to adjust depth, put the indicators underwater and slide to the desired spot. This helps minimize the residue, and also helps them stick to the new spot. Not 100% effective, but I have found it does help. Especially if you are only using one palsa.
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Post by jonbo on Mar 25, 2018 18:49:04 GMT -6
I have some mini-Palsas that I sometimes use to track a BWO dry. But the best dry going is, you tie a #14 hook in line in your setup, then you wrap a Palsa around it... I kid! I kid!... Hey, wait!
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Post by turfdawg on Mar 25, 2018 18:52:57 GMT -6
Instead of the Palsa buy the New Zeland strike indicator kit
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Post by mirvc17 on Mar 25, 2018 21:07:54 GMT -6
Some people love the palsa indicators. I’ve never really been a fan of them myself. To me they don’t float as high and if there’s current they are hard track. In a situation where you would use a palsa, I just prefer to use a big dry fly as my indicator. I like palsas in slow flat water. But if you are in a stream with any riffle or wave, tie on a big dry just in case. Chernobyl's, big stone, big stimmy's...anything. especially in tailwaters. I’ll echo Jeff. Palsas are also excellent for slow/flat water where the fish are taking emergers/pupae in the film to maybe 6-8” under. They land soft and suspend invisible Midge patterns where you want them. Yesterday I suspended two pupae and it worked better than using a small Adams with a dropper. Of course I caught fish on an Adams too. |
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Post by darrelln09 on Mar 26, 2018 5:38:43 GMT -6
Instead of the Palsa buy the New Zeland strike indicator kit That looks very interesting! I’m going to have to try that sometime. www.strikeindicator.com |
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Post by coldwaterfly on Mar 26, 2018 11:56:59 GMT -6
The New Zealand Strike Indicator is the way to go. On and off in seconds, easy to cast, and no damage to your leader. I order mine off of Amazon.
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Post by hankinsfly on Mar 26, 2018 12:30:14 GMT -6
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Post by darrelln09 on Mar 26, 2018 13:25:30 GMT -6
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Post by darrelln09 on Mar 26, 2018 13:34:06 GMT -6
The New Zealand Strike Indicator is the way to go. On and off in seconds, easy to cast, and no damage to your leader. I order mine off of Amazon. I’m definitely going to try these and my favorite fly shop stocks them! |
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Post by dainw on Mar 26, 2018 14:53:52 GMT -6
LOL this is the thing about a question like this, there are 101 different answers to it and it all boils down to personal preference. I can give you a list reasons why I prefer thingamabobbers to every other indicator on the market and I’m sure others will come up with reasons why thingamabobbers suck. My advice is to purchase 3 or 4 different styles of indicator and experiment with them on the water. Chances are you’ll find that not every indicator style works in every situation and there are certain situations where you may not want to use an indicator all. Eventually you’ll find a style of indicator or styles of indicator that you prefer to use and work for you.
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Post by mirvc17 on Mar 26, 2018 16:06:50 GMT -6
Dain, True, but what else are we going to talk about?  I DO have some thoughts on Air Lock vs Thingamabobbers, but I have to run to coach kid's soccer practice right now...... |
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Post by dainw on Mar 26, 2018 17:29:43 GMT -6
Dain, True, but what else are we going to talk about? I DO have some thoughts on Air Lock vs Thingamabobbers, but I have to run to coach kid's soccer practice right now...... I know, thingamabobbers kink your leader. I find that I’m more likely to lose the top of the air lock that secures it into place before I kink up a leader so bad that I can’t fish it any more. Plus they sell thingamabobbers at bass pro and backwoods here in the city. I have to order airlocks if I want them. |
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Post by hankinsfly on Mar 26, 2018 17:43:29 GMT -6
I've become pretty fond of the cork bobbers with the rubber loop. Minimal kinkage.
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Post by Smallfry on Mar 26, 2018 17:44:56 GMT -6
If I use indicators they're whatever ya'll happen to lose on the river, which happen to mostly be Thingamabobbers.
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