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Post by GolfvsFishing on Oct 17, 2018 8:02:21 GMT -6
In listening to an Orvis flyfishing podcast, someone suggested that early morning fishing for trout was a waste of time.
When I come to OK, I usually get started at sun up. Am I wasting my time?
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Post by hankinsfly on Oct 17, 2018 8:50:00 GMT -6
Not trying to be an ass, but forget the podcasts- get out and fish and make your own conclusions.
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Post by glitchmo on Oct 17, 2018 10:55:38 GMT -6
There's also a whole episode of that podcast dedicated to the advantages of being there at dawn.
As always, it depends on the specific circumstances of the day, and its very hard to predict.
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Post by mirvc17 on Oct 17, 2018 11:23:04 GMT -6
Not sure who on the podcast said that, but there are definitely some advantages to fishing for trout at dawn or dusk. But it can depend on where you're fishing and what time of year it is.
Winter on the LMFR is different from fishing the South Platte tailwater in Colorado in winter. Guides there would not recommend fishing at dawn because 1) it's cold (air and water temp) 2) the bug life isn't happening until it warms up some 3) the fish are lethargic and probably mostly just holding in deeper water rather than looking for food. When the bugs get active, the fish get active (generally). Guides have recommended mid morning to early/mid afternoon (warmest part of the day) as the best times during those winter conditions...
That being said, I love fishing at dawn. For me it's the whole deal of getting up at dark, drinking some fresh brew, getting ready and being in the water as early as I can. I expect not to do well, but I don't care. I'm there to go fishing, not to catch fish. Of course I don't like to get skunked either.
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Post by dainw on Oct 17, 2018 11:33:50 GMT -6
If you’re fishing the LMF, especially the heavily prsssured areas like evening hole, you need to get up at dawn to make sure of a couple things, 1) you can get a spot to fish and 2) you aren’t the 23rd person to throw a fly at that fish that day. I’ve been in the evening hole early in the morning where the bite has been pretty good and by 9:30 they won’t even look at your fly. Once you get 91 anglers shoulder to shoulder in the evening hole flinging fly lines and shiny rods around, fish get can sense that and become a little more wary. If you wait to start fishing the LMF until mid morning, there’s a good chance they’ve already seen a couple size 20 zebra midges that morning. Plus with clear water, low light gives you an advantage.
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Post by texanfisherman on Oct 17, 2018 13:13:28 GMT -6
I wouldn't say that fishing is worthless that early since I've caught plenty of fish early. My typical experiences on the LMF are steady/slow until a hot mid morning bite, then slow until later afternoon.
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Post by coldwaterfly on Oct 24, 2018 7:44:25 GMT -6
I'm usually in the parking lot ready to fish before sunrise and at the Grateful Head by 11:30 ... and I've usually made new friends by noon. Fly fishing for trout is like weight training. What works for some may not work for others. Figure out what works for you and enjoy the fishing. Besides, there's nothing better than watching the river come to life. Especially in the fall and winter, when the Goldeneye's return  |
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Post by FlyAndStream on Oct 24, 2018 9:20:57 GMT -6
I'm usually in the parking lot ready to fish before sunrise and at the Grateful Head by 11:30 ... and I've usually made new friends by noon. This is literally my river schedule too, ha! |
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Post by hankinsfly on Oct 24, 2018 11:29:43 GMT -6
If only we could go inside the place in our waders.
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Post by FlyAndStream on Oct 24, 2018 12:14:53 GMT -6
I know, right? If I'm too lazy to get out of waders I'll just go to Shady Oaks for a burger, they don't seem to mind.
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Post by hankinsfly on Oct 24, 2018 12:19:38 GMT -6
Sammich, chips, n coffee on the tailgate works good too.
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Post by danimal on Oct 24, 2018 13:03:08 GMT -6
Sun up fishing?.. Never heard of it....
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Post by FlyAndStream on Oct 24, 2018 13:06:29 GMT -6
Sammich, chips, n coffee on the tailgate works good too. I usually will go to town for a late lunch on the warmer days to try and pass the warmest part of the day, then make my way back to a stretch I'll usually fish the remainder of the evening, but with this cooler weather coming in and less daylight hours, you're right on the money. |
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Post by hankinsfly on Oct 24, 2018 17:45:59 GMT -6
I mean, pizza is always a good choice though. Grateful Head is unusually slow, even for pizza. Bunch of dead heads in there.
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Post by FlyAndStream on Oct 24, 2018 19:29:42 GMT -6
You ain't lying! Seriously though, have you ever seen someone eating pizza (or nachos) who isn't happy?! I usually call my order in right when I step out of the river, partly cause by stomach thinks my esophagus has been cut by that point, but mostly because they operate on 420 Oregon time.
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Post by hankinsfly on Oct 24, 2018 19:56:20 GMT -6
See, you take your pizza seriously. That’s a great idea- call it in ahead of time. I wonder if they deliver to the campground? FYI- Bush’s Pizza in Bull Shoals does deliver pizza to the campground in town, right to your campsite.
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Post by FlyAndStream on Oct 24, 2018 20:20:52 GMT -6
Dadgum right I do. People disappoint, pizza... pizza's eternal.
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Post by golferjeff on Oct 25, 2018 9:01:26 GMT -6
See, you take your pizza seriously. That’s a great idea- call it in ahead of time. I wonder if they deliver to the campground? FYI- Bush’s Pizza in Bull Shoals does deliver pizza to the campground in town, right to your campsite. which you will not be having this weekend...... leaving us stranded up there catching big browns  |
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Post by golferjeff on Oct 25, 2018 9:03:17 GMT -6
Dadgum right I do. People disappoint, pizza... pizza's eternal. Wait, are we talking about fishing or dating? IN my recent experience, pizza is better than dating, but fishing is still better than both!! |
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Post by hankinsfly on Oct 25, 2018 10:15:05 GMT -6
Sorry brother Jeff, but someone died, got to go to the funeral. But hey, you can have pizza AND browns! There is a great pizza place in Cotter across the highway from Dallys.
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Post by turfdawg on Oct 25, 2018 10:41:28 GMT -6
I know, right? If I'm too lazy to get out of waders I'll just go to Shady Oaks for a burger, they don't seem to mind. Don’t forget breakfast lol. When it’s pretty cold I’ve been known to fish from around 7-10 go have breakfast then fish again until 2or3 then return for burger |
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Post by coldwaterfly on Oct 25, 2018 12:52:48 GMT -6
Shady Oaks needs to expand. Every time I've gone in it's packed.
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Post by FlyAndStream on Oct 25, 2018 19:11:32 GMT -6
What Shady Oaks needs to do is to get chili and cheese to put on their dang tots, ha!
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Post by Smallfry on Oct 25, 2018 19:58:18 GMT -6
What Shady Oaks needs to do is to get chili and cheese to put on their dang tots, ha! Thank you! I swear almost every time I go I ask if they have chili chz tots!! Wishful thinking 😶 |
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