Post by FlyAndStream on Feb 14, 2020 10:08:48 GMT -6
I personally would like to see one of the LMFR Foundation's primary goals be to continue augmenting the brown trout population by annually stocking fingerlings, as it's done in the past. Seems brown trout are the future of the fishery, not that there wouldn't continue to be rainbows available. Or even going back to planting the brown trout egg vibert boxes, better yet do both. Regs are in place for browns river wide – that would certainly be one vision I could get behind and know many would give financially towards.
Besides when someone employs a $5 lure in order to catch fish the intent is to catch fish period, not mash barbs down and catch fish and then let them go. I have a hard enough time explaining barbless hooks and not keeping what I catch to begin with.
"So Fenwick, you intentionally increase the odds against yourself by mashing down the barb on your fly and then when you do catch one you let it go? You're #$%^ing crazy. So when you hunt do you shoot the critter and then immediately take it to the vet?"
Last Edit: Feb 14, 2020 14:57:06 GMT -6 by Fenwick
Post by Texastroutfisher on Feb 16, 2020 11:36:23 GMT -6
Just curious, has anyone approached the park officials or the ODFW about enforcement of these new regs? Maybe the LMFR Foundation. Given the current state of enforcement these new regs could also have a detrimental impact to the fishery if not enforced. As a C&R fly fisherman I have no problem with the new regs. However, now that the river is open to all fishing methods what risk is there to the resource if not enforced. The biggest concerns to me are the rainbow limits and the size limits on the larger fish. I agree with and understand that the regs need to cater to each individuals preferred fishing method but given that the red zones are gone this could quickly lead to a negative impact on the resource should it not be enforced. Also, given that the limit has been reduced by half will that affect the poundage being stocked? If not enforced how will this effect the population in the river should the poundage stocked be reduced. Also, what impact will there be to the trophy fish should the length limits not be enforced?
I think this is a positive step in the right direction for the fishery but these new regs will need to be enforced to make a difference. From what I have seen on the river I'm very skeptical that they will be. Only time will tell.
I can assure you the park officials and law enforcement have all been approached by many people, including the LMFRF Foundation. It has not done any good. The rangers have other priorities inside the park and due to the prevalence of poaching in McCurtain County, the game wardens are kept constantly busy. Trout fishing isn't high on their list of enforcement, especially when you have deer, turkey, bears, etc being poached outside of season.
I would be surprised with these new regulations being put into place if we don't start seeing some better enforcement. Clearly the state is taking notice of issues regarding the LMF, even if we don't all agree with their regulation changes. Hopefully the state understands how unique the LMF is among OK trout streams and will continue to make regulations that benefit the trout, not necessarily the various fishermen that journey to the river.
I will continue to work as long as I can to try and get opportunities for the fingerling browns to be stocked. The brown trout are definitely the future of the river.
Last Edit: Feb 16, 2020 13:05:26 GMT -6 by breeden3