As a frequent camper there, I hope so. Those deer are everywhere and fearless. It has increased the tic population a ton up there. I'm drawing blank on the name of the campground, but there's one outside of San Antonio where they even feed the deer. There were tics on the camper door right after backing into a spot. I didn't even get the jacks down yet. Not a fan.
Question: Is the one set up earlier in the year now defunct? Is it separate from or perhaps works in conjunction with that one above? I dunno how these things work other than from sending a donation.
Fenwick: To your question above, the link you are using is defunct, so please use the new one as posted by txflyfishmedic. The original was created by my daughter Jenny and a friend and those monies were handed to the Bristers after round one of the flooding earlier this year.
Eddie and Roberta: I am so sorry to hear this news from Jenny, I can't even tell you. Like so many others here in this forum, you know we too are standing by ready to help, in any way we can. This really is an awesome group of people, you have around you, but even from way up here in PA: We are ready to help!
It appears to my interpretation (I don't really know how to read this stuff.) that currently 11,760fps is being released, while 5,425fps is entering the lake as runoff. That would make around 6,000fps net being drained from the lake. The lake level is 626.96 ft which is just under 100% of "flood pool". Yesterday at this time the level was at 628 ft. It looks as though they've lowered the lake by about a foot in the last 24 hours. Of course, now the outflow is reduced. The 8 "tainter gates" are now open 0.5ft whereas they were open 1.5ft at this time yesterday:
Are the 8 "tainter gates" all of the Spillway gates? IOW, none of them are at the main dam or Powerhouse? Is there no water to speak of being released there? I know that before the current flooding there were repairs scheduled to be done at the Powerhouse. Would that be why there's no release there, or do they just not use the main dam area to drain excess water from the lake? I'm wondering how long the Army needs to continue with the Spillway flooding. I see they've reduced it a good deal already. I imagine that as the lake level decreases that the rate of drop will go up as each foot lower in the water table is some amount less water than the foot above it.
Post by bradbessett on Dec 30, 2015 14:07:55 GMT -6
Hey Jonbo, the 8 tainter gates are from the main dam at the top of Spillway creek. It is confusing but if you look at the very top of the page, you will see the total discharge of 11,760 CFS.
Then look below to the gate change section - The 8 gates and low flow valve are responsible for 5,566 CFS of the total, meaning 6,194 is coming through the powerhouse dam on the far side. So it basically forces you to do your own math (and know what to look at) to see the distribution.
What they need is a section that shows the flows from the powerhouse and a seperate one that shows the main dam, but that'd be too easy.
brad: Oh, OK, "New Gate Discharge" and "New Gate Settings" both refer to releases at the Spillway. I should have seen that, sorry. So, IOW, 5566fps is coming from the Spillway currently. 6000, or so, is coming from the Powerhouse. That's not nearly as bad as what I had thought. I sure am curious to see how the river came out this time, though it's heart-sickening what happened to the Fly Shop. It's a shame as well the work that the state had put into reconstruction is probably for naught.
The assorted establishments out on 259 were affected. Grateful Head and other places had to close Monday, Grateful Head opened for take out orders only yesterday and looks to be up and running like normal for NYE activities provided the Monkey Wrench Gang cooperates with the Pump House Gang fixin the works at the base of the dam. It's an absolutely maybe kinda thing. If you've been following the link to the Corps site regarding the releases you saw how they have nothing but cold water coming out like mad from all eight Tainter gates. Until they correct that issue and get hot water to flow out of the four left gates and cold water out of the four right gates like it's supposed to why, folks will just have to do without I suppose.
Last Edit: Dec 30, 2015 22:30:10 GMT -6 by Fenwick
As of 30 min. ago the water flow out of SW was 2 gates at 6in. This comes to around 1100 cfs from the gates. Do not know what is coming out of the generators. The water level is about 8in below the top of the SW gates and going down very slow. I hope to see the gates open for at least 2 more days to get the level down. I had a chance to walk up spillway from the Nature Trail parking lot. It has not changed as I can tell. The old dead trees are gone for the most part. Waterfalls are still in place as well as the pools and runs. Water is still pretty stained. The Cold Hole is now an even larger lake with the main flow from the bridge to the Bluff a little more to the West. The Bend at the Bluffs are no longer as the water has cut a new stream on the right side of the river. Can not tell you any more than that. Tomorrow I will try to get up on the top of the Bluffs and get some shots from above looking toward the EH bridge. The EH bridge has quite a large amount of trees stuck under it and has stopped some flow under the bridge. My guess is 3 weeks on any progress toward getting the roads open again. The main water line in the Bend area has to be repaired again as well as the approaches to all of the bridges. I can tell you it is a goal of the Park, ODWC and ORTD to open as possible. Now take that as you want. It is only a guess as to the time line. Remember that water is still high and the threat of a possible rain could change a lot of goals. We are doing well. Had a chance to talk to Park and at this time we are looking moving the shop directly across the street on higher ground. About 13 feet above the old shop. Will stay high and dry. Peter - TA and the others are ready to get back out as soon as possible. Thanks for all support. Eddie and Roberta
I suppose that the river channel as it has been remade is basically the river channel as it shall be. That is, if the flood has diverted it away from the bluffs it's going to stay that way for the most part. The state's not likely to try and put it back where it was. Well, it's going to be interesting to learn a new river again. The mess that's been made, say, at the Evening Hole Bridge, looks kind of bad. I imagine it's going to take some time for them to clean it up, especially since they're planning to wait until they're pretty sure the flooding is over (which makes sense). I figure they'll get the water line rebuilt in fairly short order. Then there's the damage to the bridges. Oy vey! I fear it's going to take a little while. Meanwhile, are Eddie and Roberta, and others able to hang in there?
I was thoroughly depressed when I heard about the new flooding. I had only been up once since may and, while it was good to be back on the river, it was sad to see so much of the beauty of LMFR erased. I was looking forward to the rebuilding and the "new river". Seeing the pictures above, I am actually excited about getting back when things settle down.
You can count me in on helping out. I can't contribute any great amount of cash, but I will be glad to help with rebuilding the shop or, if needed and possible, working of the clean up.
The last flood has shown that the trout deal with this type of situation well. Hopefully, we will do the same.
The pictures on the LMFR foundation website are unbelievable... so sad to see this happening AGAIN and this time much worse. Hopefully 2016 can be the year we get the river back under control. Please don't forget to donate to the GoFundMe account!
Amazing pics. Spillway creek looks even better if that is possible. Looks like a whole new river from CH 'bridge' to below EH bridge. New red zone! Can't wait to see where the water flows at 150CFS. Maybe even MORE like a western river with channels!
Damage is awful and the loss of property is terrible. I hope they get the water situation fully under control so we can see what we have. Eddie and Roberta, to quote a great baseball movie, "Build it and they will come". A part of me is excited to see the new river, it looks like it has potential.