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Post by turfdawg on May 1, 2017 20:01:30 GMT -6
Everyone keeps saying heavy flies. Well what we talking bout Willis? Size 12 with a tungsten bead and lead on the shank? Lead on shank only? Tungsten bead only? My jig flies [neer deers] with a 1/80 or 1/100 head heavy?
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Post by jonbo on May 1, 2017 21:29:40 GMT -6
I donno, Bill. I think it kind of depends on the speed and depth of the water you're fishing. A lot of experimentation. Parts of Spillway would probably require a heavier fly than say, the left side of the Rockpile. The "Euroflies" I see seem to have skinny bodies and a good sized tungsten bead for getting down fast. Look at all those that Troutbum54 shows in his pictures on the fly-tying page. I think a lot of those are euro-flies. Maybe he'll weigh in.
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Post by troutbum54 on May 1, 2017 22:36:54 GMT -6
I use tungsten beads and lead free wire on all my patterns 16 and larger, tungsten beads only on 18s and 20s, and then have some brass bead flies with lead-free wire in sizes 12 and 14 since lighter tungsten beads look super small on those hooks and having bigger, lighter flies is nice is shallow wa
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Post by troutbum54 on May 1, 2017 22:36:59 GMT -6
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Post by attackone02 on May 2, 2017 7:46:39 GMT -6
To me is all about fly design, the more dubbing and material you use will slow it down in sinking. I have flies ranging from 4.0mm tungsten beads with 10 wraps of .035 lead down to a 1.5mm. Anymore my most used anchor fly is a 3.5mm with a few wraps of .025 lead but with hardly any dubbing at all and a thread body. Also use a big caddis nymph with a lead under body. There are times where 2 size 14 with a 3.0/2.5 bead will get the job done also. You can also over size the bead and use a 3.5 or 4.0 on a 12/14 jig hook. You can sink some small flies with a tuck cast and smaller tippet.
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Post by golferjeff on May 2, 2017 7:52:53 GMT -6
Our jigged euro flies were size 14-18, heavy tungsten beads, but I don't tie and I don't know all the lingo. I stole them from HankinsFly and caught a few fish.
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Post by troutbum54 on May 2, 2017 14:39:56 GMT -6
The biggest beads I have right now are 3.3mm which I hardly get to use since the LIR has little flow when they aren't releasing and is pretty wide, but I'm planning on getting some 3.8mm beads for those size 10 jig hooks. I'll have to actually use heavier beads when I get on a stream with depth and solid flow
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Post by tsfarling on May 5, 2017 12:57:31 GMT -6
From all the bugs we are seeing and the diet from adults we have looked at, size 22 zebra midges, very small tan emerges, and tan caddis on the surface, size 18 should do the trick. Also, adult rainbows in Evening hole eat crayfish too.
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