wardw, Since you are the moderator for the LMFR Stream Flows section in this forum, I would like to respectfully suggest that the "Releases" and "Inflow" charts be displayed as semi-log plots (where the y-axis is logarithmic and the x-axis is linear). The way they are currently shown (linear y and linear x), the water flows cannot be discerned unless they are very high.
paul01, though a good request, the information link comes directly from the Corp Site, and cannot be modified. If you would like to see the flow rates as numbers instead of an chart, please click the link at the bottom below the lake levels and navigate the Corp of Engineer's site manually to the lake level links at the bottom of their page. That info cannot be linked directly to our site. The ones that are linked currently, update automatically, and we have no programming or change ability.
The State Park has started posting photos on their Facebook page about the work being done. They have already started repair on some of the bridges and ordered the parts to repair the water line. Looks like they really want to get that park back open asap.
What Brad said. The foundation website has been posting updates and photos as new info comes to pass, nearly daily. Similar news to what is on the parks Facebook page. If you readers here don't know how to navigate to those sites or to the Corps site regarding releases by now, well, shame on you. Go take a look.
@aaron, Thanks for the reply. I did go to the link that you suggested and I was able to get the information that I was looking for by going to the raw data tables. Unlike the USGS website for the CFS at Eagletown - where the charts that should be semi-log are indeed displayed in that format, the fact that the Corps of Engineers are ridiculously displaying all data on a linear-linear scale suggests that these "engineers" didn't go to engineering school. That would seem to explain a lot about the way the water is managed at BB Lake.
While we tune in to whats happening at Beavers Bend the Corps also had to release water from reservoirs all throughout the region. The Illinois and White might be running a tad high right now. Some interesting YouTube videos from places many of you have fished:
Wow. Watching the collection of YouTube videos of the regional releases makes me ponder the overall scope of the restoration work involved in our surrounding states. Just think of all that is required in terms of administration, money and labor to put things back to rights. It's Beavers Bend times how many other places? What an economic impact this holiday rainy season has been. Stunning to consider.
Wow! That is some substantial change to the river. It seems that there will need to be some re-channeling once the flow returns to normal. I am no engineer, but it looks like the end result will be a dam at the end of what used to be the cold hole, with a couple small channels that run around it. The channel that runs next to the road appears to be fed by the upper end of the "delta" and may be dry when flows drop.
I was taking another look at the video that's just been posted. It appears to my viewing that the dam that frreed refers to is just above the old Confluence area, between it and the Bluffs, and that it twists the river more or less in the same direction that it used to run, around to the right before going back to the left. Only now, instead of heading back to the left just before heading into the cypress woods, it actually runs well into the cypress before connecting with the branch running down the old Lost Creek channel area. It looks to me that that could possibly be adjusted by dredging, if TPTB so chose so that in that area the river ran somewhat close to the channel it used to run in. That is, a channel could be dredged approximately where the Confluence Hole used to be. This doesn't look nearly as rough or impossible as it did to me last night. I was a little sick to my stomach, and forgetting that when flows are reduced the river won't be running in all of those delta channels.
I wonder if there's any chance at all of restoring Lost Creek now the river's dredged that area out some? My guess would be that TPTB won't care to deal with it, but one never knows.
Am I right in my interpretation of the video? Y'all have a look!
Can you imagine the snags on that new channel? Its hard to stay patient and wait until the cleanout is done, the flows are reduced, and the main channel is restructured. I can't wait to check out whatever the current form is in person too.
Did you guys see that Zone III may be getting a new push for cooler water? Interesting stuff.
I've heard that Presbyterian Falls (is that in Zone III?) once was known as the home of monster trout. That would be pretty special if we had really good trout fishing all the way down river like that.
Nevermind. After reading the recent post on the foundation site I was gonna ask why the ODWC would do a double dose trout restoration stocking next week considering the crazy water flow we presently have especially now that the Corps has a third Tainter gate open along with the power generation station still letting water through like mad making for a Zone 1,2 and 3 washout. Stocking? What were they thinking? Why don'cha just put a bunch of goldfish in the toilet, flush it and then stand there wondering where they went? Or stock now and close the gates later to strand trout in the cypress when the crazy flow stops. Took a while to realize the third Tainter gate opening along with the unabated generation station flow is to hasten lowering the reservoir enough to get ahead of any extended stormy weather and possibly be able to soon close the faucets in order to present a near-as-can-be-back-to-normal water flow to restock trout and help get the remaining park restoration work under way a.s.a.p., hopefully next week. Am I right in guessing this? Anyone?
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Yeah, I'd as soon they open up more in order to get the levels down faster. I do imagine that's what they're doing. IIRC, the lake was at about 50% of flood pool when the big storm came. What did it take, about a day and a half of heavy steady rain (or was it 2) to cause this flood? And now, after about 3 weeks of steady generation at the power plant and heavy flow from the Spillway, the lake is still above where it started before the flooding. By all means, drain that sucker! We gotta get our river back!
I guessed right judging by the Jan. 12 Beavers Bend State Park Facebook web page entry I just read which states: PARK UPDATE: BEAVERS BEND STATE PARK WILL CONTINUE TO BE CLOSED THIS WEEK (Jan 10th-17th) and THROUGH NEXT WEEK (Jan 18th-24th) and possibly longer. We have received bids from heavy equipment contractors to clear the debris from the side and under the third bridge in the river bend area so that the river will flow back under that bridge and we can begin work on the water line. Materials have been ordered to repair the water line and are on the way. Once the contractor is selected, they can begin work as soon as they can mobilize and get on site, but we must coordinate this effort with the Corps of Engineers so that they can help, by reducing the amount of water being released, while the contractors work on the bridge. We are hoping that we can begin working on the water line sometime next week. Keep checking back for updates. Thank You
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Post by bradbessett on Jan 14, 2016 8:43:33 GMT -6
1,600 CFS isn't going to put a dent in the fish that are stocked. Yes, some may get stranded when they lower the flows but I'm sure most will manage to move into the main channel (wherever it may end up). I'd rather them be trying to replenish now than showing up to an empty river (which I doubt will be the case anyway).
jonbo, There certainly are large trout in Zone III including Presbyterian Falls, but I never found them to be any bigger than in Zones I & II. Those of you who are long-term veterans of the LMF know these caveats: First, Presbyterian Falls is hard to find, so be sure to get good directions if you are going down there. Second, due to its remote location, there are some personal security concerns if you venture down there alone on weekdays. There have been attempts by nefarious individuals to rob fishermen. It's generally safer to go down there on weekends when the weather is nice, as there will be plenty of people, but lots of them are in kayaks or canoes. Boaters will sometimes get in your way and I've encountered some very, very rude individuals. Third, if there is heavy generation and you still want to fish, you're faced with a long drive back to Zone I. Moreover, to my knowledge, there is no warning siren within audible range so you have to pay close attention to the water levels while you are in the stream. So cutting to the chase, is it worth going down there? The answer is yes, because it's an opportunity to fish some additional waters.
Post by golferjeff on Jan 14, 2016 14:07:22 GMT -6
What BB said - 1600 CFS is great for the fish. Wouldn't hurt them a bit. They would find eddies and pockets to hold in. I hope they do 'pre-stock'. Who knows what we might find in the river this go-round? Those gates were wide open for a long time.