1. We are down a Generator again. Leading to #2...
2. Starting Tuesday, 22 December (8:00am), until they give a date, flows will again return to 1,100cfs out of the Spillway Gates similar to last spring before the major flood. Leading to #3...
3. Obviously, work on the EH restoration will most likely be suspended.
I don't know what is wrong with the generator, but with the lake levels at over 70% of the flood pool, it doesn't look great that the flows will subside from Spillway until the generators are all up and running. There is no info on when it might get fixed.
Eddie or I will update you as soon as we hear any other info. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and lets hope this situation gets fixed quick.
I was planning to hit it about the 22nd or the 26th till I realized reconstruction activity might still be going on. So I changed my plan to the end of January. It looks like I made the right choice. If you go, best plan on fishing Zone 2 and Prespytrrian Falls. Even then, they may generate the whole time and you'll be out of luck altogether.
Post by Prosperflyfisher on Dec 19, 2015 11:55:59 GMT -6
I fished during the initial release earlier this year when it was about 1100 cfs like it is going to be next week. We had quite a bit of success, especially finding several 20+ bows. Most were just below Cold hole. I find maybe 2 spots in spillway that were fishable, and those were some pockets on the side where the water circled back. With the current width and depth of spillway, there will probably be more areas to fish in spillway at that release level than before. That said, the number of fishable spots will certainly be limited, so with any crowd at all, everyone will be concentrated in those few spots. I
There were also some people bait fishing below evening hole with worms who just killed it, again, mostly around 20+. I couldn't really fish that area due to the depth and swift current. Wasn't a problem spin casting from a couple of feet off shore for the other guys, though.
From what I remember, at those release levels, Zone II was not fishable. Zone II is tricky anyway, but right now the visibility isn't what it has been in the past, making it even more treacherous. I wouldn't mess with it at all on the 22nd as the water level will certainly rise some and you don't want to get caught in it. There also seems to be a lot more debris (small logs, sticks, etc.) just below the dam than ever before. I usually just bounce off the bottom and get hung up on rocks or moss, which I'm able to get loose. No such luck last week where I lost countless flies on the bottom. It was worth it, though, as they were definitely biting last week. I probably caught one, missed one or lost a fly every other cast. Brown wooly boogers and olive near deers.
Can't say for sure about Zone III, but probably not fishable either.
If it were me, I would still make the trip. At least you get a good day of fishing in, and assuming the crowds aren't bad, you should be able to find a few spots the next day. The current will probably concentrate the fish into the deep holes or the sides where the currents are as bad.
Actually the river fishes well at 1100 CFS, and if you look back in the reports on this forum, there were a lot of big fish being caught during high water. In fact there are some areas where the increased flow actually made fishing better. In fact I can think of one area that was absolutely on fire during high water last spring. I would think with the stop logs being out the area between the bridges should be even better with increased flow. If you have a trip planned during the next week, I'd go ahead and come on down.
I'm not really worried about how the fishing will be during high water. I'm worried about having another serious flood event. It took like two months to repair the generator last time, and we've got a wet winter in the forecast and a lake that's already high in the flood pool.
Hopefully we won't get quite as much rain this winter as we were getting last spring right up to the time of the flood. IIRC, last year it didn't rain every day, but pretty much every week for 3 or 4 months straight was a wet week. Also, hopefully, it won't take them quite as long this time to repair the busted generator.
Does anyone know, what with the generator under repair, with 1100cfs being released from the Spillway, is this, in any given 24 hour period, more or less water than is normally let out of the lake? IOW,because of the repair going on, is the danger of having ultimately having to severely flood Spillway, as happened last Memorial Day(?) increased, or is it not really affected?
Post by gorden4trout on Dec 22, 2015 8:42:34 GMT -6
According to the Beavers Bend State Park Facebook page...The US Army Corps of Engineers Tulsa District has informed us that the release that was scheduled for this morning at 8:00 am has been cancelled. We recieved no notification and learned this after contacting them. Thank you
I saw that current release from the powerhouse is around 6,000 CFS, and has been for several days. Isn't this the full capacity of both generators? Does the cancelled release from the Corp, along with the fact that current stream flow readings indicate that both generators are online, signify that they were able to repair the broken generator?
Ok so maybe someone can educate me on this. Currently around 6,000 CFS is being reported on the LMF USGS gauge. My understanding is that each generator is capable of producing about 3,000 CFS of flow, and the current release schedule shows that broken bow lake has been running 2 generators around the clock since december 19. How are they doing this if one of the generators is broken?
dainw, The USGS gauge is quite a ways downstream of Beaver's Bend Park, so assuming that only 1 generator is in fact running, my conjecture is that it would be possible for the flow rate to be significantly higher than 3,000 if you add in the release from the spillway gates AND the flow of tributary streams into the river if they have good water levels. However, it seems more plausible that the high flows (presently at 6,800 CFS) are primarily coming out of the generators.
After looking over the LMF flows over the past few weeks, it appears to me that the high flows that we are currently seeing are primarily due to generation. The flows have risen to around 6,000 CFS three times over that period and in each instance, the flow came up from base rates of 200 to 300 CFS and sharply "saturated" near 6,000 CFS. In one case, the flow remained saturated at 6,000 CFS for a week. Natural water flows do not exhibit such digital behavior. If 2 generators are truly required to attain 6,000 CFS, then both generators are now running.
Thanks for the update Aaron. It seems to be drawing the lake down some, so hopefully they can keep them open as long as possible. When the lake gets to 70% of flood pool, you're just one big rain shower away from being in another crisis situation. Luckily we're st 58 and falling.
Welcome to the message board jrenteridz! If you've clicked around through the various topics in this message board enough you'll have already seen a lot of information on a lot of fishing topics particular to the Lower Mountain Fork River and Beavers Bend Park, great information from and for fishermnen. As has been mentioned in some of the entries above you see how we scramble to glean water release and power generation activity put forth from official sources that are not always as timely or accurate as we'd all like. Such is life. What we do learn gets posted in here pretty quick since so many visit this website for the lowdown. Unless you know someone who has their fingers on the buttons at the Army Corps of Engineers this message board is pretty good for information. Thank those in here who roam the internet looking for the information to post from the variety of websites it comes from. We all wish there was a single source website accurately stating the who, what, why, where and when but there isn't. Seems there is always a caveat of some kind.
It's been raining sideways all day. I'm about to run down to the River to see the condition and if they're generating or not - haven't heard the sirens all day so it may still be off since 10om last night.
Will post in a few.... If they ain't biting..... d